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waterspyder ([personal profile] waterspyder) wrote2005-02-21 10:59 pm

Moral dilemma

So when your brother asks you what kind of spray paint to use on animals, because he is afraid of injuring them, is it wrong to tell him?

[identity profile] zenten.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
I'd say you should tell him, because otherwise he'll just me using the harmful spraypaint.

[identity profile] andifferous.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
there is animal friendly spraypaint..... did he explain WHY he wanted animal friendly spraypaint.... I guess to his credit he was concerned about the animals.

[identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 07:00 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think so, but it might be wrong to not try to talk him out of it. What the hell is your brother going to spraypaint, anyway?

[identity profile] waterspyder.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 07:30 am (UTC)(link)
Well, he's been my brother for 22 years, and I am rarely able to counsel him out of things. I can show him better wasys to do it that result in no property damage or a decreased chance of jail time, but telling him "No" makes me an authority figure, and "one of them" thus to be distrusted and thus I am unable to help the situation at all. He knows I'll be very, very pissed if he hurts animals and he shoudln't fuck directly with animals since there is no way for the animals to be part of the establishment. Has anyone figured out my brother is an anarchist punk yet? Yes, I've tried to explain the realities of that sort of largescale situation, but he can't see it. I'm already a traitor for working for the government. He is under the grave misunderstanding that I do nothing for my money.

I don't want to know what the spraypaint is for. Obvious mischief. He asked if it came in fluourescent, yes, it does. Basically slaughterhouses need a non-toxic, animal friendly way to mark the cows, so they make this non-toxic spray paint to tag them. Depressing, but strangely useful.

If I had to guess what he was doing, it would likely involve spraying something like letters on cows in a field while they are sleeping. I could be wrong.

[identity profile] kruszer.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 11:38 am (UTC)(link)
lol... careful or you could become an accomplice to a crime at some point :P

I think it's odd that the slaughterhouses would care about a non-toxic paint at the end - after all most cows spend their lives being pumped full of artificial hormones etc. Like something we put on their skin the day of death is going to have much effect on the crap already inside them :P

[identity profile] kruszer.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 11:44 am (UTC)(link)
maybe you could conversationally ask him what the paint is for and/or suggest that it might not be a great idea (without telling him no or anything that comes across authoritative.

You could also try giving him a little and seeing if he'll real in a bit. As in "well I know that animal friendly paints do exist - what kind of project is this you're doing anyway?"

If he's dead set on doing this, i guess it would be best if he knew there are safer alternatives. I guess you'll have to be creative and find a way of weaving this info in without sounding like you're helping him or encouraging him in these actions

good luck!

[identity profile] waterspyder.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I know it's for mischief, and I don't want to know. He'll be more than happy to inform me of his evil plans, but I learned a long time ago not to ask.

[identity profile] mattcobill.livejournal.com 2005-02-23 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
There are actually a variety of colours of non-harmful dyes for animals.. Marylin Copeland has been known to use several of them to torture the rat-thing that she calls a dog.

Hell.. the pet superstore probably could point him in the right direction....

[identity profile] mattcobill.livejournal.com 2005-02-23 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
I realize I'm saying this as I use the Grinch dyed green icon... oi.

[identity profile] waterspyder.livejournal.com 2005-02-24 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
I sent him to a farm store